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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 23:13:07 PST
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Info-Hams Digest            Tue, 28 Dec 93       Volume 93 : Issue 1518

Today's Topics:
                          ARRL Mailinf list
             Fullerton Area First Night Festival Station
                   Info sought on FT480 2m All-mode
                         K8CC logging program
                       Missing 13-year old ham
        need comments on MFJ antennas and accessories (2 msgs)
                   Need TS 440 and TU 8 information
              Paul Harvey corrects his story about HAMS.
                     Repeater database? (2 msgs)
             UK scanner listeners arrested; called "hams"
                   wanted: morse tutor for apple II
                 Where are all the young enthusiasts?

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 02:25:02 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: ARRL Mailinf list
To: [e-mail]

Did you know that if you don't notified ARRL , if you are a member, that
you want to be removed from thier mailing list. They will sell your name
to all the vendors?
  I discovered this from a phone called to ARRL. I was presented a gift
from my in-laws that they had sent for a membership to ARRL , QST magazine.
But had forgotten to give ARRL my call letter. As I was speaking to the
membership person, I had requested that I NOT receive any mail from
vendors. On the phone I was able to hear the clerk typing in the computer
a long sentence. I have no idea on what he was typing, but it sure sounds
like he was typing something about that I be removed from the mass mailing list
. Why does ARRL even have this? If you look at the subscription form to join
ARRL there is no where to mark that one can be removed from selling your
name to other vendors.

This is only my phone opbersation to ARRL headquarters.
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 14:41:52 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcomsv!bongo![e-mail]
Subject: Fullerton Area First Night Festival Station
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) writes:
>The Fullerton Amateur Radio Club is holding a First Night Special Event
>Station. First Night, as many of you should know, is a non-alcoholic
                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>celebration of the beginning of 1994.

 It had to happen. Hogmanay for the Politically Correct. They
can't even call it New Years Eve.
--
Julian Macassey, N6ARE  [e-mail] Voice: [phone]
Paper Mail: Apt 225, 975 Hancock Ave, West Hollywood, California 90069-4074

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 22:13:50 GMT
From: qualcomm.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsserver.jvnc.net!yale.edu!cs.yale.edu!csusys.ctstateu.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Info sought on FT480 2m All-mode
To: [e-mail]

 I'm looking for info/experience reports regarding the
 Yaesu FT480R. I have a chance to pick one up for $325.
 It is circa 1981. It's a 2M all-mode with 4 memories, mobile,
 and I don't think that it includes the CTCSS module.
 Any help appreciated.

 73 de Harry. N1QVE
 [e-mail]

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Date: 28 Dec 1993 14:03:49 -0700
From: yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!umn.edu!lynx.unm.edu!carina.unm.edu![e-mail]
Subject: K8CC logging program
To: [e-mail]

Someone told me about a neat logging program by K8CC (not as messy as the
Swisslog and yet as good). Where can I order it and for how much?

Please reply to me directly.

Laurent
[e-mail]

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Date: 28 Dec 93 20:26:49 GMT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Missing 13-year old ham
To: [e-mail]

You have probably already seen on this Digest:

>                NATHAN TAYLOR, WZ1W (MISSING CHILD) UPDATE
>
>         Even though two federal agencies are now involved in the hunt,
>         there are still no leads to the whereabouts of Nathan Taylor,
>         WZ1W.  Nathan is the thirteen year old ham from Gardner
>         Massachusetts who ran away from home last August 27th. ...[etc.]


Does anyone have a scanned picture that can be posted as a GIF or JPG file?

--
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Bob West          WA8YCD                        Internet:  [e-mail]
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Date: 28 Dec 93 22:43:06 GMT
From: ogicse!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!slc6![e-mail]
Subject: need comments on MFJ antennas and accessories
To: [e-mail]

I'm somewhat unhappy with my MFJ 2m telescoping halfwave.  While it
works and is definitely an improvement over the radio's rubber duck, a
friend's AEA hotrod looks better made.  The SWR on the MFJ is 3:1 and
worse, so I'm not too happy with that, either.  I haven't had a chance
to test the AEA's SWR.

        Stephen

--
Stephen Trier  KB8PWA       "The light at the end of the tunnel
Work: [e-mail]     may be an oncoming dragon"
Home: [e-mail]                          - Unknown

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 19:35:14 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!caen!nic.umass.edu!noc.near.net!gateway-gw!newshost![e-mail]
Subject: need comments on MFJ antennas and accessories
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Jerry Sy) writes:
>Also, is the MFJ J Pocket Rollup antenna any good  ($15)?

No.  It was a pretty cheaply built twin-lead j-pole (a real garage
shop operation IMHO) with heat-shrink tubing and such.  The VSWR was
all over the map when you got your hand near the feedline, so we sent
it back.

>how about telescopic antennas for HT (MFJ-1714, $17) ? how does this
>compare to the AEA hot rod ($25) ?

I've been _really_ happy with the Hot Rod.

I'll never buy another piece of MFJ gear, but to their credit they
took it back without batting an eye.  From what I can gather, you can
build all of the MFJ stuff in your basement at least as well as they
can build it in thiers, but then that's true of a lot of commercially
available ham equipment.  Don't get me started, or I'll tell you about
my Fun With Wyman...  8*{

--
Willie Smith [e-mail]  [e-mail]
She's writing a formal letter of complaint to the Internet Administration!

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 16:02:57 -0700
From: orca.es.com!cnn.sim.es.com!msanders.sim.es.com![e-mail]
Subject: Need TS 440 and TU 8 information
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG) wrote:

> Hello All:
>
> I have the Kenwood TS 440 and have picked up the TU 8 tone encoder
> (I believe it is the TU 8, it is not marked, but I picked it up from
> a former TS 440 owner who said he used it in his radio).
>
> 2.  How to activate (where to place the unit).  I had heard once (on the
> air) that the PL is not activated unless the TS 440 was operating from the
> split memories.  Is this true?

> Clark
> .....................

I just happen to have the basic TS-440 manual here at my desk.  Had
borrowed it from the club ham shack.  It doen't have the TU-8 settings but
does answer one question:

"An optional subaudible tone unit TU-8 is available for installation in the
TS-440S for accessing 10 meter FM repeaters.  This tone is activated
whenever the TS-440S is in the SPLIT mode"

"SPLIT switch:
Allows the use of one VFO for transmit, and the other for receive (Split
Frequency operation).  For example:  VFO A is the active VFO, and VFO B is
the inactive VFO.  Depressing the SPLIT switch will cause the TS-440S to
receive on VFO A and transmit on VFO B.  The mode of reception and
transmission will follow the mode contained in the appropriate VFO memory.
It is possible to work cross band, cross mode if desired."
=========================================================================

Opinions, thoughts, &cetera are my own (when I can remember them).

"He flies the sky                               KB7MSF
Like an Eagle in the eye                         UTAH
of a hurricane that's abandoned."

     America

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 22:32:02 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: Paul Harvey corrects his story about HAMS.
To: [e-mail]

Yesterday I wrote about Paul Harvey using the word "Hams" to refer to
a group of people in England who responded to a police radio transmission
of martians landing.

Today Paul Harvey did mention his little goof yesterday, and did correct
his story.  He metioned that the word "Hams" when used in reference to
amateur radio is commonly believed to mean Licensed Shortwave Radio
Operators (close) and that a license is NOT needed to listen to shortwave.

He mentioned the work Amateurs have done in the wake of floods, earthquakes
and fires.

Oh, and he mentioned that the source for his story was Reuters (as on
email respondent to me suggested.)  Now the question... why did reuters
just NOW pick up on this story...  I read about it last month in Monitoring
Times... and they have a three month lead time.

Thank you Paul Harvey, for correcting your story.

Mike
N6QYA

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Date: 28 Dec 93 09:43:04 GMT
From: ogicse!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Repeater database?
To: [e-mail]

...
>
>Is a database of (US) repeaters available (for free or licensable)?
>Something like what's used to generate the ARRL repeater directory
>is what I'm interested in - presumably it's in some electronic form
>already. Any leads greatly appreciated.
>
>  Mike Blackwell  --  ke3ig  --  [e-mail]

I just spotted the following on page 98, Jan '94 QST:
 "National Repeater Coordinators Database. Contact Jay Maybey,
 Regulatory Information Branch, at ARRL HQ, for
 assistance with the NRDB."

Looks promising.

Joe - AA3GN ([e-mail])

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Date: 28 Dec 1993 18:13:17 -0500
From: qualcomm.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!panix![e-mail]
Subject: Repeater database?
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>,
Joe Landis - Systems/Network Mgr. - x2621 <[e-mail]> wrote:
>...
>>
>>Is a database of (US) repeaters available (for free or licensable)?
>>Something like what's used to generate the ARRL repeater directory
>>is what I'm interested in - presumably it's in some electronic form
>>already. Any leads greatly appreciated.
>>
>>  Mike Blackwell  --  ke3ig  --  [e-mail]
>
>I just spotted the following on page 98, Jan '94 QST:
> "National Repeater Coordinators Database. Contact Jay Maybey,
> Regulatory Information Branch, at ARRL HQ, for
> assistance with the NRDB."
>
>Looks promising.
>
>Joe - AA3GN ([e-mail])
>

The NRDB is a service for frequency coordinators use, only.  It is
designed to facillitate communication between coordination groups, and for
providing data for publication in the ARRL Repeater Directory.

Perhaps in the future there will be a national database made available in
non-printed form, but that will require formal agreement among the
coordination councils which provide the data.

Publication of repeater data is a sensitive issue for many repeater
trustees.  Many wish their repeaters to be "secret" -- non-published.
Others feel it's OK to be listed in the ARRL Repeater Directory, but not
elsewhere.

I can't speak for other councils, but for TSARC there will have to be a
formal policy adopted -- perhaps even a constitutional amendment (I have
to double check).

Anyone in the TSARC region interested in this issue, either way, please!
Get involved!

73, Andy
--
        ______________________ Andrew Funk, KB7UV ______________________
       |     President, Tri-State Amateur Repeater Council  (TSARC)     |
       | ENG Editor/Microwave Control, WCBS-TV Channel 2 News, New York |
       | Internet: [e-mail]      Packet: kb7uv@kb7uv.#nli.ny.usa |

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Date: 28 Dec 93 12:52:21 EDT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!mercury.wright.edu!desire.wright.edu!matrix.cs.wright.edu![e-mail]
Subject: UK scanner listeners arrested; called "hams"
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David Hough) writes:
> In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (slm) writes:
>>
>>I read the following "Guardian" report, via Reuters news service, and was rather
>>irked. I would imagine that all the folks involved in this were
>>NOT necessarily ham-radio operators :-(
>>
>>And I'm no expert on British law, but it seems rather unfortunate
>>to arrest someone because they wanted to drive someplace and see
>>something, if they were looking from a distance and not interfering
>>with police activities.
>>
> [article deleted]
>
> Under English law (and probably Scottish as well - the two are not always
> the same) the only things you can listen to radio-wise without a licence of
> some sort are broadcast > standard frequency service.
>
>
> Note that I don't agree with the law, but the British Goverment has always
> been a bit paranoid about what its citizens can listen to!
>
>

The way things are going in the US we are not too far behind. Taking in
consideration the Scanner Laws and now the US DOT ban on RADAR detectors
for commerical vehicles.

This ploy would sound like something for an agency to do that would provide
good arrest stats. Sort of like the old speed trap ploy, a great money
maker too.

73 Wes WB8CEH


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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 01:51:53 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.cac.psu.edu!ems.psu.edu!aaron![e-mail]
Subject: wanted: morse tutor for apple II
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>
>If yu have a IIgs, there is a nifty program called "QSO Kid" available on
>services like GEnie.

I can't find this using archie.  Does anyone know where I can FTP it from?

Thanks - Joe, AF2J

--
Joe Reinhardt,  [e-mail]
Department of Electrical Engineering
The Pennsylvania State University

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 05:25:17 GMT
From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!emory!kd4nc![e-mail]
Subject: Where are all the young enthusiasts?
To: [e-mail]

[e-mail] (Michael Sattler) writes:

>Larry Kollar ([e-mail]) wrote:

>: threatening the establishment is exactly what LARC (and most clubs, to
>: tell the truth) need.  Ham radio is in a rut.  And from what I've heard
>: from others, LARC is actually one of the better clubs around.  Makes me
>: wonder what the bad ones are like.

>: OK, how about you & me & Richard (and anyone else you can think of) get
>: together at a BBQ joint and talk about what can be done.  I've been
>: hinting for a long time that LARC needs come competition -- I'm done
>: with just dropping hints.  You're not the only one disenchanted -- how
>: many times have I been to a meeting this year?  There are others.

>Hey!  Can someone from San Francisco attend the threat-in?  The SFARC
>is in a similar rut and I'd sure like to push more there with the warm
>fuzzies that havin unindicted coconspiritors in LaLa land would bring.

>: --
>: Larry Kollar, KC4WZK   | I like CW, but that doesn't mean I think every ham
>: [e-mail]  | should have to learn it.
>:                "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog."
>--

The problem, Larry, is that you won't really attract a club unless you have
a local 2 meter repeater...that's the way the mentality is in this area.  I
don't have the funds to start a new repeater, nor do I have the site for one.
If I could put one up locally, ie on the square, it'd be nice...but I don't
know anyone....furthermore, when LARC (lanierland, not the gay club) found
about it...they'd probably be calling my house...

Oh well...

John

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>Michael S. Sattler (KE6DZF)   [e-mail]         [phone]
>Digital Jungle Software       Encrypt now; ask me how.    Finger for PGP key.
>                              Geek = GCSy+n+f+g+t+d--p--c++u+e+m++s++/rhw!l
>               All that is required for evil to triumph is
>                for {wo}men of good will to do nothing.

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Date: 28 Dec 1993 15:16 PST
From: agate!library.ucla.edu!news.mic.ucla.edu!unixg.ubc.ca!erich.triumf.ca![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <sohn-221293082259@17.255.8.71>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: what frequencies are marine band?

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Willie Smith) writes...
>[e-mail] (P.Bennett) writes:
>
>>There are no repeaters (as hams know them) in the marine service .  If you
>
>Are there no repeaters allowed, or are there just no repeaters?  I can
>think of a few islands that use VHF marine almost exclusively that
>could use the increased coverage that would be made available by a
>repeater on one of the duplex channels...
>

Well, I guess the questions here are: would the appropriate regulatory authority
issue a station licence for a marine repeater, and, who would want to install
such a thing - where would funding come from, etc???  I expect that the Coast
Guard and Telco would not be interested - perhaps a large yacht club might be
interested.


Peter Bennett VE7CEI                | Vessels shall be deemed to be in sight
Internet: [e-mail]   | of one another only when one can be
Bitnet:   bennett@triumfer          | observed visually from the other
TRIUMF, Vancouver, B.C., Canada     |                          ColRegs 3(k)

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 19:20:17 GMT
From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!nic.umass.edu!noc.near.net!gateway-gw!newshost![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <sohn-221293082259@17.255.8.71>, <[e-mail]>ar
Subject : Re: what frequencies are marine band?

[e-mail] (P.Bennett) writes:

>There are no repeaters (as hams know them) in the marine service .  If you
>are willing to pay for a phone call, the telco might let you place a call
>to another vessel on the same (or different) channel, and so get the effect
>of a repeater.

Are there no repeaters allowed, or are there just no repeaters?  I can
think of a few islands that use VHF marine almost exclusively that
could use the increased coverage that would be made available by a
repeater on one of the duplex channels...


--
Willie Smith [e-mail]  [e-mail]
She's writing a formal letter of complaint to the Internet Administration!

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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 03:19:40 GMT
From: swrinde!emory!kd4nc!ke4zv![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <2fkooa$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Reply-To : [e-mail] (Gary Coffman)
Subject : Re: cw waivers

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (John F. Woods) writes:
>[e-mail] (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>According to the Newsline article, RTTY, AMTOR, and *other non-CW
>>digital protocols* all count toward the award. That opens the possibility
>>for totally automated stations to achieve DXCC in a short time.
>
>Oh boy.  I've always looked forward to the day when machines could enjoy my
>hobbies for me, thus freeing me to ... uh ...

That's the sad thing isn't it? If competing for score by hand is
superceded, you can't think of anything interesting to do with
amateur radio, like maybe actually exchanging ideas with another
person over the air, or playing with a new technology.

But rejoice Type A, they aren't abolishing the CW Honor Roll, just
adding a new category. Unless you can't stand not having *every* award,
you can ignore the machine scores and be content competing in your sub-
category. Like an antique car racer, you can't compete with the real race
cars, but you can still show off to your sub-culture.

Gary
--
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     |

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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 15:09:44 -0700
From: orca.es.com!cnn.sim.es.com!msanders.sim.es.com![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>ca.es.co
Subject : Re: UK scanner listeners arrested; called "hams"

In article <[e-mail]>, erik@avalon (Erik van
bronkhorst) wrote:

>
>
> Agreed about the police methods, but who is going to take
> seriously a report about aliens?  I remember as a child
> police talking about Santa Claus sitings over their
> radios but I didn't buy it.

> --
> Erik KC6UUT DoD#4342585443 AMA#438054


Apparently, Englishmen will flock to unusual "sights".  Reminds me of an
experience told me by a good friend:  he was a diplomat in Russia (Air
Attache at the US Embassy) and would see people flocking to get at the end
of a long line.  He went to the end of one line as asked why everyone was
lined up?  The answer:  "This is a long line, there must be something good
at the front!"  This is a true story.

I would guess that the English who were scanning the police frequencies
were very much used to hearing very factual data and did not even think
that false information, outlandish as it was, would ever be broadcast over
an official police band by the official police.  This might be a good test
here in the US to see who might be attracted by such an announcement <HI>

Milt
BTW Erik, is you AMA # Academy of Model Aeronautics?
--
=========================================================================

Opinions, thoughts, &cetera are my own (when I can remember them).

"He flies the sky                               KB7MSF
Like an Eagle in the eye                         UTAH
of a hurricane that's abandoned."               AMA 8400

     America

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